Comments on: If a Chief Financial Officer (CFO) and Managing Director (MD) Fight to the Death, Who Comes Out Alive? https://mergersandinquisitions.com/chief-financial-officer-jobs-vs-managing-director-jobs/ Discover How to Get Into Investment Banking Wed, 05 Jul 2023 09:57:20 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.2.2 By: Nina https://mergersandinquisitions.com/chief-financial-officer-jobs-vs-managing-director-jobs/#comment-484754 Thu, 02 Jun 2016 10:58:41 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=15943#comment-484754 In reply to Nina.

Hello! Could you give me an opinion on this, please? Thank you!

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By: M&I - Brian https://mergersandinquisitions.com/chief-financial-officer-jobs-vs-managing-director-jobs/#comment-457462 Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:49:12 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=15943#comment-457462 In reply to Ricardo856.

I think it’s possible, but why bother going into IB first? Your story will be much harder to explain like that (accounting –> IB –> back to an accounting-esque role). Normally they want people who have moved up through the ranks within the corporate finance team. So it’s possible to do this, but it’s more likely to work at small-to-mid-sized companies.

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By: Nina https://mergersandinquisitions.com/chief-financial-officer-jobs-vs-managing-director-jobs/#comment-454658 Wed, 20 Apr 2016 15:30:32 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=15943#comment-454658 In reply to M&I – Nicolas.

Hello, Nicolas! Congratulations for this excellent article!

I want to know a little more about the entry opportunities for Corporate Finance, in this case, I must say I’ve already read some of M&I articles. But I think my case is quite different.

I did some Audit work for a few months as an undergraduate in a renowned global accounting firm. Later I had more administrative and operational positions (with some accounting tasks related) in some multinationals after graduating from my Bachelor Degree in Accounting (this is a little more than two years). After that, I made it to get a position of Audit Assistant at a Big 4 Accounting firm in my home country, Dominican Republic, and almost a year later I moved to China to pursue a Master Degree in Economics and Finance in UIBE, Beijing, China. This last is what I’m doing right now, expecting to graduate by summer 2017. Sorry for this long story, just wanted you to figure out a little my background.

Nowadays, I’m actually trying to find an internship in United States, because I’m very interested to get into international markets and have real growth opportunities which I couldn’t have in my home country, that’s exactly why I decided to go abroad. But it seems to be something very difficult because I need sponsorship for the work visa and even here in China it’s a little difficult to find an internship because of the language barrier, although I have a few months learning mandarin.

However, I wanted to do this internship in Investment Banking in order to get full time position in the field after graduating and then, after having some experience, moving to Corporate Finance, which is my real interest. Anyway, I don’t think I can have many opportunities to choose the kind of internship I really want to do, but just one intership in any finance field I could find.

So, considering my professional background and my actual limitations, my question is: what are your suggestions for me (a 24-years-old latino woman) to break into the US market (in the Corporate Finance field) and also if it’s suitable to start in Investment Banking and then moving to Corporate Finance, or just trying to get into the Corporate Finance field?

Awaiting your soon reply! Thank you so much!!!

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By: Ricardo856 https://mergersandinquisitions.com/chief-financial-officer-jobs-vs-managing-director-jobs/#comment-266336 Thu, 01 Oct 2015 21:30:31 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=15943#comment-266336 Hi Nicolas,

Thank you for your post, great article.

I had 2 years of accounting experience and then quit my job and joined master program in top European school. Currently, I want to get in IBD and work there for 3-4 years and make it to Associate level. However, after that I want to move to Corporate Finance and be eventually CFO of big company. My question is how realistic is this career plan? If I get 3-4 years experience in IBD, can I move to Financial manager role in mid-sized company afterwards and go towards CFO role eventually?

Thanks in advance for your response.

Best Regards,

Ricardo

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By: Rohan Shinde https://mergersandinquisitions.com/chief-financial-officer-jobs-vs-managing-director-jobs/#comment-203310 Thu, 27 Mar 2014 04:01:49 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=15943#comment-203310 In reply to M&I – Nicolas.

Having said that think both in the end have the upside and downsides

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By: M&I - Nicolas https://mergersandinquisitions.com/chief-financial-officer-jobs-vs-managing-director-jobs/#comment-203305 Thu, 27 Mar 2014 00:35:19 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=15943#comment-203305 In reply to BBQ Shape.

Of course CFOs are not booking journal entries or logging into SAP/Oracle to check the system. Even the Controller would get reports from the team on that.
But a CFO could be involved in approving the big journal entries for an acquisition/disposition if it has consequences on the P&L or in the legal entity structure etc. This is not daily accounting but it involves understanding controllership.
That means 95% of the CFO will have a controllership experience. Which doesn’t mean daily accounting routine and being a pure accountant, please check out this article for more details: https://mergersandinquisitions.com/corporate-finance-career-path/
So If you really like finance a lot you go and get your controllership experience for a few years which is not being a 9 to 5 accountant or anything but more analysis, big transaction accounting, simplifying processes etc. If you can’t push yourself to do this that means you probably won’t be able to go the CFO route.

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By: BBQ Shape https://mergersandinquisitions.com/chief-financial-officer-jobs-vs-managing-director-jobs/#comment-203288 Wed, 26 Mar 2014 01:38:05 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=15943#comment-203288 In reply to M&I – Nicolas.

At the Director or CFO level, is there a lot of granular detail in accounting? It would seem that knowledge of it would be obvious, but the accounting department normally has droves of people that perform routines like journal entries, accruals, etc.

I have this image in my head, and it could be completely wrong, that the focus at that level is more strategic and the accounting routine would be left up to the Controller and their people. I have a hard time picturing the CFO logging into SAP to verify activity.

If daily accounting activity is the destination, is the only escape (while advancing) either to branch off into strategic planning or go back to financial services? What do guys do when they really like finance a lot but don’t want to deal with daily accounting routine? I guess that’s my burning question.

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By: M&I - Nicolas https://mergersandinquisitions.com/chief-financial-officer-jobs-vs-managing-director-jobs/#comment-203287 Tue, 25 Mar 2014 23:09:20 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=15943#comment-203287 In reply to M&I – Brian.

I agree with Brian and that’s one loophole. To get to the Director level I wouldn’t say that CPA is mandatory, at least that depends on the company. But to get to Director/CFO you’ll have to have one experience in controllership/accounting yes. If you can’t stand controllership that much you’re probably not going to like the CFO role either because regulatory stuff & accounting is a good chunk of your job…If you don’t like the journey and don’t like the destination that might not be worth it.

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By: M&I - Brian https://mergersandinquisitions.com/chief-financial-officer-jobs-vs-managing-director-jobs/#comment-203284 Tue, 25 Mar 2014 13:39:23 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=15943#comment-203284 In reply to BBQ Shape.

I think Nicolas will have to weigh in on this once since it’s above my pay grade, but yes, I think you have to do some form of accounting work, at least at large companies.

The main “loophole” is becoming CFO at a tech or biotech (for example) start-up. I know one banker who worked at a bulge bracket as an IB analyst for 2 years, took a few months off, joined the corporate finance department of a fast-growing start-up, and somehow became CFO after about 5-6 years there, when he was just over 30. Granted, it’s not a huge company (~1,000 employees now) but that’s still pretty ridiculous.

So that’s probably the main workaround… get some experience, join a fast-growing company, move up quickly when there’s no one else qualified, and then leverage that promotion to move in at the same level at a bigger company.

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By: BBQ Shape https://mergersandinquisitions.com/chief-financial-officer-jobs-vs-managing-director-jobs/#comment-203256 Sat, 22 Mar 2014 18:49:54 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=15943#comment-203256 I work in CF right now, and once you get to the point where you hit Finance Director, you have to have a CPA and have the accounting department under one half of you etc. I can’t stand the accounting department and to get a CPA you have to work directly under a CPA for a few years.

It’s basically not possible to hit Finance Director or CFO without a CPA and doing the accounting work is it? I mean if I were to go from where I am now and work in accounting, I’d take a 60% pay cut and have to deal with all that. Is there a workaround?

How do you make that jump and go from the finance department maybe FP&A Manager to the higher levels? Controllers already hate us to begin with.

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