Comments on: From Middle-Office Operations to Front-Office Sales & Trading: How One Reader Made the Leap and How You Can Do It Too https://mergersandinquisitions.com/middle-office-to-sales-trading/ Discover How to Get Into Investment Banking Wed, 12 Apr 2023 03:50:43 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.2.2 By: M&I - Brian https://mergersandinquisitions.com/middle-office-to-sales-trading/#comment-730246 Mon, 12 Jul 2021 22:44:33 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=2977#comment-730246 In reply to OPSdreamer.

I would not recommend business school until you’ve tried everything else first, such as networking, moving to a more relevant group (corporate banking, independent valuation firm, Big 4 advisory, etc.), or even a shorter/cheaper Master’s degree.

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By: OPSdreamer https://mergersandinquisitions.com/middle-office-to-sales-trading/#comment-730069 Sat, 03 Jul 2021 02:08:45 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=2977#comment-730069 Hi Brian,

I read your articles and I was wondering if you could respond and give some advice. I went to a smaller non-target school and majored in Econ because it had a good program and the degree i went with allowed me to take a lot of math. My overall GPA ended up being a 3.0 but I got a finance Minor with a 3.8 finance GPA in all the difficult valuation/capital markets courses. I didn’t spend any summers on internships as a I played a sport and was trying to make something happen(olympics) with that but it hasn’t worked out. I ended up taking a middle office early careers role at a top BB. I definitely feel that I can use the year of this job to prove that I have skills in due diligence and managing risk, I also feel my modeling skills are above a finance major based on how Econ modeling is much more in depth and am able to communicate that in an interview. I am definitely getting my CFA and i wanted to know what you think I should do before business school to maximize my chances of getting into IB.

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By: M&I - Brian https://mergersandinquisitions.com/middle-office-to-sales-trading/#comment-728721 Fri, 07 May 2021 00:25:13 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=2977#comment-728721 In reply to John.

Yes, you should be able to get into S&T, but it’s typically difficult to switch groups immediately after an internship ends. My advice would be to perform well in the internship, win a return offer, and then network with the S&T group and aim to switch into it once you’ve already been working full-time.

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By: John https://mergersandinquisitions.com/middle-office-to-sales-trading/#comment-728532 Sat, 01 May 2021 03:28:23 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=2977#comment-728532 Hi, I am a final year undergraduate. I have a BB treasury summer analyst role lined up but I aspire to get a grad role in S&T. I have previous experiences in Fixed Income Sales at a Singaporean bank and in Transaction Advisory at one of the Big 4s. May I ask what do you think my next step should be to get into S&T and what my chances are given my experiences. Also, do you think if it will be possible to network my way into S&T at the BB where I will be starting my summer internship? Thanks!

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By: M&I - Brian https://mergersandinquisitions.com/middle-office-to-sales-trading/#comment-721626 Fri, 19 Jun 2020 14:53:03 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=2977#comment-721626 In reply to finance guy.

I would not bother with a BB operations offer if you already have a CPA offer, you’ve already graduated, and your long-term goal is IB/PE. The best strategy here is probably to work at the CPA firm for a while (<= 1 year), then move to something like a valuation or transaction services firm, and then use that strategy to get into IB.

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By: finance guy https://mergersandinquisitions.com/middle-office-to-sales-trading/#comment-721615 Thu, 18 Jun 2020 16:43:17 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=2977#comment-721615 3.84 Gpa from SMU. Majored in finance. Transferred in a junior so I missed out on much of the recruiting. I also played football so that took up most of my time that I maybe should have devoted to recruiting/networking. My only experience is in risk advisory at at middle market CPA firm. I graduated a month ago and my full time offer to from the CPA firm to do the same thing was pushed to January. I’ve been looking into other options lately and want to get into banking and eventually P/E but don’t know how to get started. I have an offer for a contract for hire position at a BB firm in operations. Is this worth taking for the short term? would there be transition opportunities at the end of my 6month contract? I’ve thought about starting a MSA program for the next 6 months and getting a CPA and using my “accounting expertise” to transition into banking. What do you think of that option?

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By: M&I - Brian https://mergersandinquisitions.com/middle-office-to-sales-trading/#comment-679163 Tue, 24 Apr 2018 16:24:16 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=2977#comment-679163 In reply to Brian.

Well, let’s see:

1) You were at an asset manager, not a large bank.

2) This article was written in 2010. Presumably, things have changed since then.

3) It sounds like you enjoyed back/middle-office operations and wanted to stay there.

So, it’s not too surprising that you had a different experience.

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By: Brian https://mergersandinquisitions.com/middle-office-to-sales-trading/#comment-678979 Thu, 19 Apr 2018 19:49:34 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=2977#comment-678979 I disagree with a lot of this article. I started in back/middle Operations shortly after college and interacted constantly with trading desks and PM teams. Our FO teams always respected my team (I’m the head of BO now) and we worked together constantly. I on multiple occasions had the chance to jump to the trading desk but it was actually a pay cut. For some context we are not an enormous manager but do manage 250 B

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By: M&I - Brian https://mergersandinquisitions.com/middle-office-to-sales-trading/#comment-668705 Wed, 01 Nov 2017 12:31:58 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=2977#comment-668705 In reply to Lauren.

If you want to do strategy consulting, then you should continue working at the top-tier consulting firm. Moving to operations at a bank would be pointless because top-tier consulting experience has a much higher perceived value for any of these roles.

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By: Lauren https://mergersandinquisitions.com/middle-office-to-sales-trading/#comment-668574 Mon, 30 Oct 2017 00:36:57 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=2977#comment-668574 Hello!
I am currently interning at the top-tier consulting firm and have an interview with the cash equities operations team at a pretty-well known bank.

I see that the article says it’s easier to go into strategy consulting from the operations (but does that mean operations within the consulting or strategic management in a consulting firm)?
I personally want to see myself in consulting after some work experience in banks, then does it not matter whether I go for operations or not?

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