Comments on: Investment Banking vs Private Equity: Should You Start on the Buy-Side? https://mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-vs-private-equity/ Discover How to Get Into Investment Banking Wed, 10 May 2023 11:51:42 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.2.2 By: M&I - Brian https://mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-vs-private-equity/#comment-783047 Wed, 01 Feb 2023 16:55:33 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=1836#comment-783047 In reply to Lawrence Lo.

Yes, this is generally true (even at non-mega-funds). See the PE Analyst article for more.

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By: Lawrence Lo https://mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-vs-private-equity/#comment-782977 Tue, 31 Jan 2023 10:31:08 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=1836#comment-782977 Hi Brian. I heard that in a mega fund, that if you start as an analyst, it is harder for you to get promoted to associate versus an applicant from BB investment banking M & A who is applying for associate, is that true?(I want to work in PE for sure)

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By: M&I - Brian https://mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-vs-private-equity/#comment-739167 Wed, 20 Apr 2022 17:17:20 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=1836#comment-739167 In reply to José Heredia.

It does matter because you tend to get more “credit” for closed deals. It also sounds like you accomplished more, even though you probably had nothing to do with the deal closing. But perception trumps reality in recruiting in a lot of cases. Traditionally, PE firms have recruited mostly from investment banks, but more firms are beginning to hire students directly out of undergrad.

The idea was to make sure people are trained in accounting/Excel/PowerPoint/valuation/modeling and then give them more “real work” in PE. But in a lot of cases, firms can also train people internally.

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By: José Heredia https://mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-vs-private-equity/#comment-735241 Fri, 08 Apr 2022 18:48:10 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=1836#comment-735241 In reply to M&I – Brian.

But does closing a deal matter that much when you’re working as an analyst? Because an analyst would analyze that deal no matter if it failed in the future or not.

Also, if the analyst/associate job is so similar between IB and PE, why do PE funds almost only hire people from IB?

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By: M&I - Brian https://mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-vs-private-equity/#comment-735200 Wed, 06 Apr 2022 17:23:03 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=1836#comment-735200 In reply to Jose Heredia.

One of the differences is that a higher percentage of the deals you work on in IB will close. By contrast, ~99% of potential deals in PE are rejected fairly early on, and even among the ones that advance further, the failure rate is probably higher.

If you think that you’ll be doing something much different than fixing slides, reviewing spreadsheets, and building models as a PE Associate, then I think you might not have a clear understanding of the industry and what you do as a junior-level employee. It’s a very similar job, but with more responsibility and less hand-holding. But if you find PPT and Excel fundamentally boring, you’re also not going to like PE.

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By: Jose Heredia https://mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-vs-private-equity/#comment-735058 Tue, 29 Mar 2022 17:32:17 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=1836#comment-735058 In the second example for getting more out of IB than exit opportunities (in the section “What’s the point?”), I don’t see much difference between doing the grunt work for many deals that don’t get close (in IB) and doing the research and due diligence for many investment opportunities that are eventually discarded.

In addition, how does fixing slides and reviewing spreadsheets give you relevant “training” to apply in as a PE associate?

Thanks in advance,
Jose

P.S. the link in “so you’re less likely to close many deals” is for deals in IB and not PE. I don’t know if it was intended or not, but by the placement used one thinks it is for PE deals.

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By: M&I - Brian https://mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-vs-private-equity/#comment-698162 Fri, 01 Mar 2019 01:49:22 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=1836#comment-698162 In reply to Ay?enaz.

That is not something we do because there is about a 0.1% chance that I can tell you anything useful about the AM firm because we don’t track individual firms that much, and outside of banks, we *really* don’t track individual firms that much. If you want information, look on LinkedIn find people who worked at this AM firm, left, and have been doing other things for a few years, and then contact them via email to ask for their quick thoughts. That takes time/effort, but it’s the only way to get good results… don’t trust people online, review sites, etc.

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By: Ay?enaz https://mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-vs-private-equity/#comment-698134 Thu, 28 Feb 2019 20:13:53 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=1836#comment-698134 In reply to M&I – Brian.

Thank you so much for your reply Brian! And so sorry about missing your original reply. Would it be possible to reveal the actual name of the fund to you in private chat so that you can give me a quick evaluation of how good the company is in terms of promotion paths (I will also name the Elite Boutique which will help)? Just two lines from you would help me greatly. The current employees of the company are very secretive and there is a lot of pressure to reveal as little as possible. I am also willing to pay for this service was it necessary, all I would want is really two lines on the AM fund versus the specific EB, I am sure that after your long experience and multiple conversations you will provide me with a comprehensive answer and help me make a correct decision. Thank you in advance

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By: M&I - Brian https://mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-vs-private-equity/#comment-697999 Tue, 26 Feb 2019 22:23:17 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=1836#comment-697999 In reply to Aysenaz.

I responded to your original comment on the other post:

https://mergersandinquisitions.com/finance-recruiting-in-2019/#comments

“If you are 100% certain you want to stay in the hedge fund/asset management world, and this large fund is reputable with well-established promotion paths, I’d say the AM offer is better. The only real advantage of starting out in banking is that you get a better brand name and network if you’re at one of the bulge brackets, but those same advantages don’t quite exist for elite boutiques. “

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By: Aysenaz https://mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-vs-private-equity/#comment-697785 Sun, 24 Feb 2019 00:29:27 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=1836#comment-697785 Hey Brian, I am currently considering between an AM offer at a large fund with more than €500bln in AUM where I would be doing a mixture of equity research and PM track work, and an offer from an Elite Boutique investment bank that would include a mixture of M&A and restructuring. Both offers are for the London office. Given my ambition of eventually becoming a HF PM, which offer do you think I should take? I have no preference about what type of hedge fund I want to end up in, any large bottom-up hedge fund would be great.

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