Comments on: From Regional Audit to Investment Banking: How to Break in *Without* the Big 4 Pedigree https://mergersandinquisitions.com/audit-to-investment-banking/ Discover How to Get Into Investment Banking Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:33:46 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.2.2 By: M&I - Brian https://mergersandinquisitions.com/audit-to-investment-banking/#comment-807182 Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:33:46 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=21740#comment-807182 In reply to Jared.

It’s almost always better to do Audit –> M&A/ TS –> IB because audit directly to IB is quite a jump and usually doesn’t work that well. You could spend a lot of time networking and interviewing and end up with nothing after months of effort.

The biggest problem here is that you’re in Australia, which is a terrible market for career changers moving into IB (see: https://mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-in-australia/).

Honestly, you’re probably better off pushing for a transfer overseas so you can aim for IB roles in a bigger market. Normally, you should stay in each role for about ~1 year before moving to the next one, but you may need more time if you’re also moving to another country as part of this.

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By: Jared https://mergersandinquisitions.com/audit-to-investment-banking/#comment-806064 Wed, 21 Jun 2023 23:52:29 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=21740#comment-806064 I currently work for HSBC in retail banking (which I know has almost 0 correlation to IB) and am about to start a Grad role at the Big 4 as an Auditor. Would you recommend trying to get into IB straight from Audit or going from Audit –> M&A/TS (inside Big 4) –> IB?
Also, how long would you recommend I stay in Big 4 before trying to make the transition into an investment bank?
(Working in Australia)

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By: M&I - Brian https://mergersandinquisitions.com/audit-to-investment-banking/#comment-799651 Sat, 20 May 2023 02:14:33 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=21740#comment-799651 In reply to Paul Venter.

I attempt to respond to all good-faith comments on this site, even ones on older articles (some articles here are ~15 years old and still get plenty of comments…).

My understanding is that in South Africa, it’s quite common for CAs to get into IB after working in audit/accounting for a while. So I don’t think it will be a hindrance (though I admittedly haven’t looked at that market or done an interview with a banker from South Africa in quite a few years).

I think the issue here will be less your age and background in audit and more the fact that SA is a small and difficult market to break into. You’d have a better chance if you could move to Europe, the U.K., or some other larger market.

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By: Paul Venter https://mergersandinquisitions.com/audit-to-investment-banking/#comment-799600 Tue, 16 May 2023 21:21:58 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=21740#comment-799600 Hi not sure if this comment will get answered due to how old the post is comparatively. I am an audit trainee at a top 15 firm in south africa. I am in my second year of articles and I started straight out of high school. I am still busy with my undergrad but if everything goes well I should qualify as a CA(SA) within 3 years. I am extremely interested in IB and I am just wondering if it would at all be worth it considering a career in it as it might be challenging to break in due to my age and background in audit. Will me becoming a CA(SA) be of any advantage? Is it worth while taking a shot and applying to an IB or company that overs M&A services this early in my career? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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By: M&I - Brian https://mergersandinquisitions.com/audit-to-investment-banking/#comment-617719 Wed, 01 Mar 2017 06:26:00 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=21740#comment-617719 In reply to Andre.

Yes, it probably makes sense to go to the TAS/CF group, even if it’s at a smaller firm. You already have a brand name from your current firm.

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By: M&I - Brian https://mergersandinquisitions.com/audit-to-investment-banking/#comment-617716 Wed, 01 Mar 2017 06:23:32 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=21740#comment-617716 In reply to Ji.

M&A is probably better since you’re exposed to more deals and deal processes there.

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By: Ji https://mergersandinquisitions.com/audit-to-investment-banking/#comment-617565 Wed, 01 Mar 2017 01:31:34 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=21740#comment-617565 I’m an auditor from one of the big fours and gone through two busy seasons. My firm has valuation and M&A (TS) practice in advisory. Which one do you think has a better chance to get me to IB/PE in the future?

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By: Andre https://mergersandinquisitions.com/audit-to-investment-banking/#comment-601830 Sat, 21 Jan 2017 11:50:36 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=21740#comment-601830 Hi Brian,

I currently work as an auditor at a top 5-6th accounting firm in the UK. It’s not Big 4 but it is a pretty recognizable name globally. I am placed in a regional office near London, so it is not our central office, although I work on their audits too. I am in the middle of my 3-year graduate scheme but got an offer from CF/TAS group in a much smaller firm with a not known name. So I am trying to decide if it would be wise to move to their CF or stay where I am right now with a goal of getting into IB boutique in the medium-term horizon. This smaller firm seems to have pretty strong CF/TAS for its size with deals between 5mln and 100mln. and majority around 40mln. Just as a comparison my firm works on deals between 5mln and 500mln. with most being around 50-70mln. This smaller firm is also led by partners who are ex-BB bankers. From internal networking at my current firm, I learnt that it will be very difficult to transfer to TAS/CF in London office and if successful may take up to 3 years from now, meaning I am stuck with audit for good 4-5 years. On the other hand moving to the other firm means I will have immediate hands-on experience of fin. modelling on a wide range of deals (they have very high deal flow) but I am worried their name and size may damage my chances of getting into IB later. I would appreciate your advice on this as I find it really difficult to decide what would be the best option of breaking into IB.

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By: M&I - Brian https://mergersandinquisitions.com/audit-to-investment-banking/#comment-549378 Mon, 26 Sep 2016 21:19:37 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=21740#comment-549378 In reply to Ryan.

It would be better to get into TAS or IB before you move back. I wouldn’t say Big 4 experience really carries more weight in Asia, it’s probably more helpful in EMEA. It’s still a bit easier to get in than in the US, but your chances would be better if you got into something relevant than audit before moving.

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By: Ryan https://mergersandinquisitions.com/audit-to-investment-banking/#comment-548065 Sat, 24 Sep 2016 15:51:33 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=21740#comment-548065 Great post Brian! Just a few quick questions, I just started with one of the big 4 audit in US, but I am originally from Asia and my ultimate goal is to land an IB role over there (Sibgapore, HK, China, etc). As far as I know, CPA and a big 4 experience carry a lot more weight over there. So my question is should I get into TAS or IB over here before I move back? Or move back right away with my CPA/Big 4 audit experience?

Thanks!

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